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Posted By: ANDREW TILLEY
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Joined Date: May 13, 2012
But it is your opinion I want, please enlighten us!
Posted : Feb 12, 2013
Posted By: Romy The Cat
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Joined Date: Feb 5, 2013
Andrew, if you are interested to know about the DSD problem then seek and you will find. The problem with the format is well known. BTW, do not stress the “DSD native form” as the 1-bit SACD that you know is not a proper DSD but a cheap Sony surrogate of original 4-bit DSD.

Tom, so you say that since you do not change volume, do not do rendering, so not apply any compression at digital level and just splicing the feeds you do not engage any DSP engine that does the double conversion? I very welcome to this level of digital hygiene, if it is true.
Posted : Feb 11, 2013
Posted By: Tom Caulfield
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Joined Date: Apr 19, 2012
Roman, you are correct about Pyramix converting a DSD file to DXD for everything except splicing, and in editing, outside the crossfade region. Pyramix will do butt splicing without conversion, and only converts to DXD in editing during the crossfade interval, typically tenth's of a second.

Channel Classics microphone mix, and level setting is preformed in analog at the session, for the stereo release. Stereo downloads, and the stereo content on an SACD were recorded in DSD, edited in DSD, and released in DSD. I agree that labels recording (tracking) all microphones at full level, then using Pyramix in pot processing to to set the levels for the mix are actually DXD productions.
Posted : Feb 10, 2013
Posted By: ANDREW TILLEY
Total Posts: 15
Joined Date: May 13, 2012
Hi

I am interested in knowing what it is you do not like about DSD.

It is the format that nearly all recording studios (even the big boys) archive their master files in. To hear the true value of the format you have to listen to it in its native form. This requires a DSD capable DAC (these are not exactly cheap) and equipment to match. It does make listening to this format an expensive business but to me it is vinyl in digital form.

It is good to debate the pros and cons of DSD v PCM so I look forward to hearing from you.
Posted : Feb 8, 2013
Posted By: Roman Bessnow
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Joined Date: Feb 5, 2013
Tom, thanks for your answers.

My secondary interest was to find out if record in PCM parallel to DSD. Apparently not. The DSD editing you do in Pyramix in reality is not DSD as they run internally PCM at 352kHz, so an edited DSD file is not true DSD but a result of multiple double conversion. From my attitude you might figure out that I am not a huge DSD fan, at least the 1 bit version that everyone sold nowadays but I guess it is what it is. I look forward to try you 4x recordings. BTW, you told that you recorded Bruckner 7, when will it become available? Was it with “interesting“ orchestra and stimulating performance? My tail is kind of trembling…

Rgs,
Romy the Cat
Posted : Feb 6, 2013

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